HBO World Championship Boxing Recap
HBO World Championship Boxing Recap
April 11, 2009
Mandalay Bay Resort & Casino-Las Vegas, Nevada
This is the first boxing event of 2009 in Las Vegas. Promoters have been trying to avoid running the town until they had a major event. This should not have qualified as a major event and has only drawn a crowd of 5,425. There was heavy papering to get that number.
1. NABF/WBC Continental Americas Heavyweight (200+ pounds) 12-Round Championship Match:
Chris Arreola (26-0, 23 KO's, 255 pounds) (c) vs. Jameel McCline (39-9-3, 23 KO's, 271 pounds)
Arreola won the NABF Heavyweight Championship in his last match via technical knockout from Jack Reiss on November 29, 2008 at the Citizens Business Bank Arena in Ontario, California. The match was one of the most exciting heavyweight matches of the last several years, though not an especially skilled contest. Arreola showed up to the match completely out-of-shape. After throwing 106 punches in round 1, Reiss dropped Arreola with a right hand to the face with 2:33 to go in round 2. However, it appeared to be a flash knockdown. Arreola responded by knocking down Reiss with 59 seconds to go still in round 2. A weak left hand from Arreola dropped Reiss for a second time 32 seconds later. The Houstonian lasted out the round, but was dropped with a left hook that had the referee waving off the match at 13 seconds of round 3. The match was exciting, but caused boxing writer Kieran Mulvaney to joke that Arreola could not spell defense if you spotted him the "d" and the "fense" and that Arreola spelled training B-U-F-F-E-T. A full recap of that match can be found here: http://www.number1contender.net/the-latest/2009/4/10/recap-of-chris-arreola-vs-travis-walker.html Arreola is making his first defense of this title.
The Southern California native won his WBC Continental Americas Heavyweight Championship when it was vacant via knockout at 1:45 of round 3 over Thomas Hayes on September 21, 2007 at the Doubletree Hotel in Ontario, California. The previous champion was Tony Thompson who vacated the belt in order to get a title shot at Wladimir Klitschko. Arreola is making his fourth defense of this title.
Arreola had an active amateur boxing career between the ages of 8 and 16. He then quit the sport, only to start boxing again in 2001. Arreola is so talented that with 3 months back in the gym he won the 2001 Golden Gloves Championships at 178 pounds. That would satiate the Arreola's desire to box for a while and he would not turn pro until September 5, 2003 with a round 2 technical knockout victory of Roosevelt Park at the Edgewater Hotel & Casino in Laughlin, Nevada.
As a rule, boxers are not referred to as talented in these recaps. Every boxer at the upper echelon of the sport has talent. Boxers win, because they have spent years training to be elite. To say boxers win because they are more talented then their opponents is to somewhat discount all the hard work they have done. However, Arreola wins because he is more talented then his opponents. Arreola has said in interviews after both of his last matches that he was concerned about his weight and would be back in the gym a few days later. Arreola said he had been working hard and would be down 10 or 15 pounds to the 240 pound range for this match. Yet, Arreola has gained weight since his last match. Arreola has gained 16 pounds since his match on June 21, 2008. At this point his insincerity about a desire to a be a professional athlete has become annoying. Arreola says he is not even going to try to get down to 230 pounds, again. That is a weight he made 2 years ago. The boxer claims his hips and shoulders have spread too much for him to make the weight, again. Unless he has given birth in that time, there is no way his hips have spread that much. At 20-years-old, Arreola was boxing at 178 pounds. Allowing for a growth spurt, Arreola should be competing at no higher then 200 pounds. That means there is at least 55 pounds of excess fat on his frame. There are some that like to compare him to Ricky Hatton who famously gains a tremendous amount of weight in between matches. There is one key difference here. Hatton always shows up in shape to his matches. Arreola has not done that in years, even at 230 pounds there was a lot of excess fat on his body. At 255 pounds he is clinically obese.
Arreola is The Ring magazine's number 8 contender to their vacant heavyweight championship.
McCline had little amateur boxing experience before turning pro with a round 1 technical knockout win over Brian Nix on October 10, 1995 in Rochester, New York. However, that may be somewhat of a positive at this point in his life, because it means he has taken less damage in the ring from added years of competing in the amateur ranks.
This is McCline's return to HBO after a 12-round unanimous decision loss to Samuel Peter on October 6, 2007 at Madison Square Garden in New York City, New York. That match was somewhat controversial. McCline was challenging for the interim-WBC Heavyweight Championship on a Saturday, but the match was nearly canceled on Friday. The New York Daily News had broken the story that McCline had been a customer of Signature Pharmacy. McCline had purchased at least: testosterone, stanozol, nandrolone, human growth hormone and tamoxifen, which masks the physical effects of abuse of performance-enhancing drugs. The Peter side eventually agreed to do the match with McCline being tested rigorously. The match started great for McCline. He dropped Peter for the first time in the Nigerian's professional boxing career with a punch to the neck in round 2. McCline would follow up by knocking Peter down twice in round 3. First, a right hand had Peter falling onto the canvas with 2:33 to go in round 3. Then, a left hand dropped Peter with 1:02 to go in round 3. Peter was in bad shape when the action was resumed with 45 seconds to go in the round. Unfortunately, McCline came into the match out-of-shape and was already out of energy. A gassed McCline would be unable to finish Peter in round 3. Then what had been an exciting heavyweight match became tedious. Neither boxer did much punching for the rest of the match. In round 10, both men were completely out of gas and resorted to clinching to lay on each other to get some rest. However, McCline was so inactive that he lost the next 9 rounds. It was heavyweight boxing at its worst, as 2 over-weight competitors seemed to be working to do as little as possible, but still win rounds. A full recap of that match can be found here: http://www.number1contender.net/the-latest/2008/10/11/recap-of-samuel-peter-vs-jameel-mccline.html
McCline's last match was a 12-round unanimous decision over Mike Mollo on November 7, 2008 at the Sichuan Gymnasium in Chengdu, China. That was a title eliminator and should have McCline as the next in line to challenge Vitali Klitschko after John Ruiz. That means if McCline wins tonight, he should be in line for a title shot within the next year or so.
McCline is unranked by The Ring, and the number 34 ranked heavyweight in the world by boxrec.com.
At 28-years-old, Arreola is 10-years-younger then the 38-year-old McCline. McCline has the height advantage standing 6' 6" tall, while Arreola stands an exaggerated 6' 3.5" tall. (If they exaggerate his height by about 2" it makes him sound less obese.) The veteran has the reach advantage with a 27" arm length measured from the armpit to the end of the fist, compared to the 25.5" arm length of Arreola. Neither boxers' unofficial weight approaching match time is available. However, unless Arreola has been gorging at the world famous Las Vegas buffets for the last day (a real possibility), McCline will still be the heavier boxer in the ring. Both boxers will employ the orthodox stance.
The unified rules of boxing are in effect for this event. All of the official judges keeping score of this match from ringside are from Nevada. The referee is Tony Weeks. Harold Lederman will be keeping HBO's unofficial scorecard.
Arreola appeared to hurt McCline with some body punches in round 1. The good work to the challenger's soft midsection wins round 1 for Arreola, 10-9. Lederman scores round 1 for Arreola, 10-9. Arreola easily wins a slow round 2, 10-9. In round 2, Arreola out-landed McCline in total punches 20-to-5. Arreola wins round 2 on the Lederman scorecard, 10-9. With 1:30 to go in round 3, McCline is completely out of gas and is clinching to rest. McCline's strategy was to stand on the outside and jab. However, he has already run out of energy and will not have enough stamina to use that strategy for the rest of the match. In addition, McCline is not throwing punches to Arreola's gargantuan belly on the inside. On the inside, Arreola is working the soft body of McCline, while McCline holds on to catch his breath. The referee warned McCline after round 2 for holding and may take points from him if this continues. Round 3 is very close, but McCline's constant holding should cost him the round. Arreola wins round 3, 10-9, and is ahead on my scorecard after 3 rounds, 30-27. McCline wins round 3 on Lederman's scorecard, 10-9, but Lederman has Arreola leading after 3 rounds, 29-28.
With 1:12 to go in round 4, a combination finished off by a chopping right hand sends McCline to the mat. McCline said he was retired before this match and that combination may have retired McCline for real. The veteran boxer is hurt and does not look like he wants to get up that much. He makes a token effort to stand at the referee's count of 8.5 and the match is stopped. McCline may have barely beaten the referee's count and the referee understanding McCline's body language stopped the match. The referee may also rule that McCline did not beat the count. Either way it looks like McCline's career is over and the referee was trying to let him end it in a relatively dignified fashion.
The official outcome courtesy of the legendary Michael Buffer is that: at 2:01 of round 4 the referee reached a count of 10 making the winner by way of knockout, still undefeated and still the NABF and WBC Continental Americas Heavyweight Champion, Chris "The Nightmare" Arreola. The win moves Arreola to 27-0 with now 24 wins coming by way of knockout.
The final punchstat numbers have Arreola landing 72 of the 146 total punches he threw, for an excellent 49% total connect percentage. Arreola landed 65 of the 104 power punches he threw, for an astounding 63% power connect percentage. McCline landed 24 of the 129 total punches he threw, for a 19% total connect percentage. The vanquished challenger landed 13 of the 49 power punches he threw, for a 27% power connect percentage.
Arreola said in his post-match interview that he is starting to finally feel ready for the Klitschko brothers. The champion was booed at the beginning of this interview, because the crowd did not find his performance during the match very entertaining.
McCline started his post-match interview by complaining about being called in to take the match at the last minute. (For the record, that was 6 weeks notice after he had declined the match once and HBO rejected Hasim Rahman as a potential opponent for Arreola on this show.) McCline then said Arreola is not great, but he cannot say a lot, because he just lost. Strangely, McCline was never asked about retirement.
Arreola was much better then McCline in this match. The champion threw combinations and had a superior strategy to the veteran. At this point, Arreola needs to face top opposition. It makes sense for Arreola to be Vitali Klitschko's next title defense after the Ukrainian defeats Ruiz. However, until Arreola starts to act like a professional and commit to boxing he will have little chance against Klitschko. Arreola uses his friends for sparring partners and does nothing to stay in shape. When confronted by a world class athlete that trains with elite sparring partners and has a Hall-of-Fame trainer Arreola will likely be exposed as a fraud.
McCline showed up to this match out-of-shape and got retired by a boxer who was also out-of-shape, but had more talent. The ring veteran is involved in 2 other businesses. Hopefully, McCline can do well pursuing his future endeavors.
Now Jim Lampley is going to do a ringside interview with Hatton who is already in Las Vegas in preparation for his May 2 match with Manny Pacquiao. Hatton talked how he is improving his defense in training. It was then pointed out that he has 2 black-eyes from sparring. However, Hatton said everything was going well and he will win by being the bigger boxer in the ring that night.
2. Middleweight (160 pounds) 12-Round Match:
Paul Williams (36-1, 27 KO's, 157 pounds) vs. Winky Wright (51-4-1, 25 KO's, 159 pounds)
Williams had a brief amateur boxing career of less then 25 matches before turning pro on July 21, 2001 with a decision victory over Jeremy Mickelson in Greensboro, North Carolina.
The Augusta, Georgia resident is developing a reputation as the most avoided boxer in the sport. Williams is monstrously large with a reach that overwhelms the top heavyweights. He is listed at 6' 1.5" tall, but is probably taller. Williams has an 82" wingspan, which is a few inches longer then both Klitschko brothers. That is astonishing considering Wladimir is 6' 6.5" tall and Vitali is 6' 7.5" tall. Williams sets a pace that is unrivaled in the sport today. The giant holds most of the records for punches thrown at 147 pounds. Williams had a reputation for being a boxer that throws lots of punches with little power. Then Williams won his last 3 matches all by knockout, all at different weight classes, and 2 against top 5 opponents in the weight class. Williams is now shuttling between 147 and 160 pounds trying to find any name opponent to face him.
Williams' last match was a technical knockout victory at 3:00 of round 8 over Verno Phillips for in the main event of the show that featured the Arreola-Reiss match. The match for a vacant interim 154-pound title showcased Williams improving power punching. The veteran Phillips had not been knocked out since July 30, 1988, in the waning days of President Reagan's administration. However, the doctor felt Phillips had taken too many hard punches and stopped the match in the corner after round 8. A full recap of that match can be found here: http://www.number1contender.net/the-latest/2009/4/11/recap-of-paul-williams-vs-verno-phillips.htmlWilliams still holds that title, but it is not at stake in this match.
Williams is The Ring's number 2 contender to their vacant championship at 154 pounds.
Wright turned pro at 18-years-old with a 4-round unanimous decision victory over Anthony Salerno on October 16, 1990 at the Hyatt Regency in Tampa, Florida. The Floridian would spend the next 2 years refining his boxing skills in the greater Tampa area before going to Europe to further learn his craft.
The veteran had once been considered the most avoided boxer in the sport. Wright developed a "shell defense" that made him very difficult to hit. The Floridian would allow his opponents to throw combinations that would bounce off his arms then counter with a hard jab. It made his opponents look bad and was very effective. Wright used that style to so thoroughly dominate and embarrass Felix Trinidad in their match on May 14, 2005, that the Puerto Rican retired for a few years following the blowout unanimous decision loss.
Wright's last match was a 12-round unanimous decision loss to Bernard Hopkins on July 21, 2007 at the same building that is hosting this event. This was a horrible match for Wright. Hopkins cut Wright badly over the left eye in round 2 with a head butt. The clash of heads was ruled unintentional. However, on replay it appeared Hopkins had intentionally hit Wright with boxing version of Nigel McGuiness' rebound lariat, a rebound head butt. The cut was bleeding directly into Wright's eye and the savvy Hopkins would spend the rest of the match working over the cut. Hopkins was throwing a single punch, then clinching with his head on the side of Wright's head that had the cut. The wily veteran would then rub his head on the cut making it worse in the clinch, until the referee called for a break. Wright was completely taken out of his game by the cut and this pattern would continue for the entire match. The Floridian could have stopped Hopkins from doing this by landing his famous jab, but Wright abandoned it early in the match. Therefore, Hopkins completely dominated Wright in a frustrating match. A full recap of that match can be found here: http://www.number1contender.net/the-latest/2008/10/18/recap-of-bernard-hopkins-vs-winky-wright.html
Wright was ranked in The Ring's rankings at 160 pounds and in their top 10 pound-for-pound rankings, even following the loss to Hopkins. However, nearly 21 months of inactivity have left Wright unranked by The Ring and boxrec.com, which only ranks boxer that have been active in the last year.
At 27-years-old, Williams is 10 years younger then the 37-year-old Wright. Williams has the height advantage standing 6' 1.5" tall, while Wright stands 5' 10.5" tall. The Georgia resident has the reach advantage with a 25.5" arm length, compared to the 23" arm length of Wright. Wright will be the heavier boxer in the ring having unofficially rehydrated to 168 pounds approaching match time. Williams has only rehydrated to 165 pounds approaching match time. Wright is naturally right-handed, but both boxers will box out of the southpaw stance. Williams is the 2-to-1 betting favorite.
All of the judges keeping official score of this match from ringside are from Nevada. The referee is Joe Cortez.
Very close round 1, because Williams threw substantially more punches then Wright. Wright landed a handful of good punches in round 1, while Williams may have only landed 1 or 2. However, Williams appeared to throw 4-times as many punches as Wright in round 1. Wright may barely win round 1, 10-9. Lederman gives round 1 to the hyperactive Williams, 10-9. In round 1, Wright landed 14 of the 42 total punches he threw. In round 1, Williams landed 21 of the 104 total punches he threw. Wright is going to have to start punching more, because Williams is not going to get tired. Williams appears super human and will probably throw over 100 punches in rounds 7 through 12 if Wright does not stop him. No boxer at 160 pounds has ever worked at this pace in history. With around 30 seconds to go in round 2, a welt is beginning to form under the right eye of Wright. Within 15 seconds, Williams sees the new welt on Wright's face and begins to go target it with a variety of punches. Williams wins round 2 easily, 10-9. In round 2, Williams landed 20 of the 105 total punches he threw. Conversely, Wright only landed 11 of the 45 total punches he threw in round 2. The Georgian takes round 2 on Lederman's scorecard, 10-9. Williams was grinning as he won round 3, 10-9. After 3 rounds, Williams leads on my scorecard, 29-28. Lederman scores round 3 for Williams and has him ahead after 3 rounds, 30-27.
Power is the most overrated skill in sports and especially boxing. Speed is the common factor among all of the elite boxers. Williams is too fast for Wright and forcing the veteran to work at a pace no one in history has ever endured. Therefore, Williams wins round 4 on Lederman and my scorecard, 10-9. Williams works at a relatively slower pace in round 5. However, he still did enough to win round 5, 10-9. In round 5, Williams landed 16 of the 81 total punches he threw, for a 20% total connect percentage. In round 5, Wright only landed 9 of the 42 total punches he threw, for a 21% total connect percentage. Lederman scores round 5 for Wright, because it was a relatively better round for the veteran, 10-9. Wright has a good round 6 and wins it, 10-9. However after 6 rounds, Williams leads on my scorecard, 58-56. Williams wins round 6 on the Lederman scorecard, 10-9, and is ahead on Lederman's scorecard after 6 rounds, 59-55.
Williams gets back to working at his ridiculously fast pace and easily wins round 7 on Lederman and my scorecard, 10-9. Round 8 is Williams best of the match. Williams hurt Wright with a combination in the first minute of the round, then began to work at an even more frenetic pace to wear down the veteran. Williams wins round 8 big, 10-9. Wright's power punches were having some effect in rounds 1 and 2. However, Wright's power punches stopped being powerful several rounds ago, because of Williams relentless punching. Now, Williams is barely reacting when Wright hits him. Through 8 rounds, Wright has landed 82 of the 354 total punches he has thrown, for a 23% total connect percentage. That is a below average work rate for a boxer at 160 pounds, but still respectable. Through 8 rounds, Williams has landed 158 of the 736 total punches he has thrown, for a 21% total connect percentage. That is approaching record pace for number of punches thrown by a boxer at 160 pounds. Lederman scores round 8 for Williams, 10-9. In round 9, Williams broke the record for number of jabs ever landed on Wright who has faced several future hall-of-famers in his career. Williams dominates Wright in winning round 9 on Lederman and my scorecard, 10-9. After 9 rounds, Williams leads on my scorecard, 88-83, and on the Lederman scorecard, 89-82. Through 9 rounds, Wright has landed 53 of the 189 power punches he has thrown, for a 28% power connect percentage. Through 9 rounds, Williams has landed 119 of the 473 power punches he has thrown, for a 25% power connect percentage.
Williams continues his domination winning round 10 easily, 10-9. The Georgian wins round 10 on Lederman's scorecard, 10-9. Wright's trainer had been telling the boxer he had been doing well after most rounds, but after round 10 the trainer told his charge that the boxer needs a knockout to win. In round 10, Wright landed 11 of the 36 total punches he threw. Meanwhile in round 10, Williams landed 23 of the 105 total punches he threw. To put that in perspective, Juan Manuel Marquez the champion at 135 pounds has never done thrown that many punches in a round in his over 15 year career. Williams did this in the tenth round of a match at 160 pounds. Williams wins round 11 on Lederman and my scorecard, 10-9. Williams did not let up in round 12, throwing 106 punches in the round, the most punches he has thrown in any round of the match. Therefore, he won round 12 easily on Lederman and my scorecard, 10-9. Williams wins the match in decisive fashion, 118-110, on my scorecard, and 119-109 on the Lederman scorecard.
The official decision courtesy of Michael Buffer is that the judges have scored this match: 119-109, 119-109, 120-108, all for the winner by unanimous decision, Paul "The Punisher" Williams. The win moves Williams to 37-1 with 27 wins coming by way of knockout.
The final punchstat numbers have Williams landing 247 of the 1086 total punches he threw, for a 23% total connect percentage. Williams landed 177 of the 667 power punches he threw, for a 27% power connect percentage. Wright landed 116 of the 511 total punches he threw, for a 23% total connect percentage. The Floridian landed only 76 of the 271 power punches he threw, for a 28% power connect percentage. Wright only landed 11 more punches then Arreola did in the first match, but this match went 25 minutes longer.
Williams said in his post-match interview that he wants Bernard Hopkins at 168 pounds in his next match.
Wright said in his interview after the match, that he did experience some ring rust, but had never faced anyone like Williams before. Wright said he is not retiring, but plans to start competing frequently after this.
Williams continued to prove himself as an elite boxer that belongs in the sports pound-for-pound top 10 rankings following this win. The Georgian is a natural 147-pounder who has to eat a lot to make 160 pounds. Williams has defensive liabilities, and a boxer with superior punching power at the higher weight classes may be able to take advantage of that. However, Williams appears unbeatable against boxers that cannot match his physicality. There is no one in the sport that will be able to win a decision against him trying to match his work rate. It appears Williams may face a boxer with the perfect style to beat him in Hopkins on HBO this summer.
Wright did well, but got beaten by a better boxer. He still has some skills left and does not need to retire. However, Wright would probably be best returning to 154 pounds where he was a world champion several years ago. His next match will be against a lesser opponent and after he was defeated badly here it is hard to figure out what network would pay to carry it.
This event featured a huge contrast. The first starred a boxer that cannot be bothered to train hard. The second featured one who has trained incredibly hard to become an elite athlete and one of the best boxers in the sport. HBO tried to sell the first match as what people want in American heavyweights. That is like telling WWE fans that a match between Big Daddy V and Great Khali is a match between great big men in the sport of professional wrestling. The fans see through the hype, and know they are watching a bad match. The main event was unentertaining. Williams was too dominant to make the match entertaining. The Strikeforce show tonight was much better.
News and Notes: The Cottos made a strong play to usurp the Mayweathers as the most dysfunctional family in boxing this week. Since childhood, Miguel and his brother Jose had been trained by their uncle Evangelista. The relationship has been the brothers and uncle have been deteriorating for years. For the last few years, Evangelista and the brother's relationship has become purely professional. This was highlighted a few years ago when Jose and Evangelista started pushing each other in the corner during Jose's last match in May 2007. Miguel had to come out of the crowd and jump on the apron to settle down Jose to finish the match without attacking Evangelista. That was tame compared to what happened between Miguel and Evangelista on Wednesday. The 2 originally got in an argument over whether Miguel would train for his June 13 match against Joshua Clottey at MSG in Florida or Puerto Rico. It would be much better for Evangelista if the training camp were in Puerto Rico, because he is training several other boxers at his gym there. On Wednesday this argument brought on a fight years in the making at Evangelista's gym. Evangelista apparently snapped and hit Miguel in the face cutting him on the nose. Miguel wisely left the gym and headed home, but Evangelista was not done. Evangelista showed up at Miguel's house later in the day ready for round 2. That fight culminated when Evangelista apparently threw a cinder block at Miguel. Miguel moved, but the boxer's parked 2009 Jaguar did not. It apparently went crashing through the window of the car. This caused Miguel to decide to finally fight back physically. This resulted in Evangelista being sent to the hospital for treatment of an undisclosed injury. The local police are currently looking into this. They apparently look down on throwing cement at people's heads, but since neither party has filed a complaint they are unlikely to charge anyone. Miguel is now looking for a new trainer, but should still be ready for Clottey.
Amir Khan has signed to move up in weight to challenge for Andreas Kotelnik's 140-pound title on June 27 at a location to be determined in the United States. This is a somewhat surprising development, because there was a verbal deal in place for Kotelnik to defend his title on that day in Los Angeles on HBO against Victor Ortiz. However, Khan's promoter, Frank Warren offered more money to Kotelnik to face his boxer.
The Chris John-Rocky Juarez rematch is official for that June 27 HBO event that was supposed to feature Ortiz-Kotelnik.
Jean-Marc Mormeck, who lost The Ring Championship at 200 pounds to David Haye is moving to heavyweight. Mormeck is moving to heavyweight in search of a rematch with Haye, not a world title match with either Klitschko brother.
Tomasz Adamek has added another potential challenger to the list. Roy Jones, Jr. now wants to move up to 200 pounds to challenge for Adamek's Ring Championship in July on HBO. Jones has never won a title at 200 pounds, which would have made the match interesting 5 years ago.
Oscar De La Hoya appeared on ESPN2 on Friday as the promoter of the Friday Night Fights event. He gave an interview where it sounded strongly like he is retiring from the sport of boxing. De La Hoya will make his decision public in a press conference on Tuesday.
The first episode Pacquiao/Hatton 24/7 aired on Saturday and it will have numerous replays throughout the week. The show was very entertaining. It is not going to be the best 24/7, but is still must watch television for boxing fans.
The next recap will be covering the April 18 ShoBox event featuring Yuriokis Gamboa in a match to determine a third WBA champion at 126 pounds.
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